The Atheist Foundation of Australia is back on the buses!

With the 2012 Global Atheist Convention only one month away, the AFA is again advertising on public transport in Melbourne.

Using a provocative quote by Woody Allen, “IF GOD EXISTS, I HOPE HE HAS A GOOD EXCUSE”, the intention is to inform people who otherwise might not know about the convention, that it is going on and that it is going to be an absolutely fantastic and unrepeatable experience not to be missed.

David Nicholls, president of the Atheist Foundation of Australia, had this to say about the adverts: “Woody Allen’s words encapsulate the thoughts of the freethinking community and the sneaking suspicions of a growing number of religious people as well. Considering the immensity of the unnecessary death, pain and suffering on the planet, an alleged all-powerful and all-loving god certainly has a lot to answer for.”

The 2012 Global Atheist Convention runs from Friday 13 April (superstitious people need not apply) to Sunday 15 April. It is jam-packed with some of the brightest minds of our time as well as great comedic acts and a liberal dose of other exciting presentations. Top class catering is included in the price of a ticket.

Nicholls went on to say, “As far as all evidence to date suggests, the universe runs on natural laws with planet Earth just an insignificant speck in an unimaginably enormous cosmos. A god certainly needs to explain why, with such a mind-blowingly complicated system that can be understood using reason, reason should be dismissed in human affairs in favour of accepting answers based in delusion.”

Contact :

David Nicholls
President
Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc
Private Mail Bag 6
MAITLAND SA 5573

Ph: (08) 8835 2269 | Mob: 0408 344 633
Email: info@atheistfoundation.org.au

2012 Global Atheist Convention Video

31 Responses to The Atheist Foundation of Australia is back on the buses!

  1. An awesome quote. R’amen.

  2. Al B. Quirky says:

    Interesting that Athos would pay to put an agnostic quote on a bus, but who/what determined the natural laws that the Universe runs on?

    • @Al B. Quirky,

      You seem to be unaware of other famous quotes by Woody Allen.

      “To you I’m an atheist; to God, I’m the Loyal Opposition.”

      Or this one:

      “Not only is there no God, but try getting a plumber on weekends.”

      And what does it matter who made the quote on the bus sign? Does that make it somehow less relevant?

      David

      • Andrew says:

        I don’t think it’s agnostic because of the person it came from. The agnostic part is the suggestion that we don’t know if god exists or not.

        You’ll notice Quirky didn’t say “quote from an agnostic”…

    • Wiseguy says:

      Well, Al B’ Quirky, the origin or author of a quote is not in the least relevant. It could have come from the Qur’an or the Bible, for all it matters. What is important is the MESSAGE. Ruminate on the MESSAGE, not its origin. You could possibly learn something. As for the determination of natural laws, even if we didn’t have as much as the foggiest idea, that’s still no reason to credit one of the hundreds of assumed, invisible, unknowable, super-human sky beings. As it happens of course, we do know a fair bit about the natural world, and are learning more everyday. But even if we never got any closer to knowing the ultimate origin of the universe, it STILL does not indicate, or offer the slightest evidence, that there was a ‘god’ involved. Gods are human constructs. They exist purely in the human imagination.

  3. Ben Leeman says:

    If god exists: A challenging idea, and begs the question that a god can allow so much evil and suffering. Does this god support social justice, equity, etc.? As we know, there is no god, and therefore we, as fellow human beings are responsible for social injustices, inequities, etc. Can we, as atheists and humanists work actively together to promote a fairer and socially just world? A world without war, hunger and abuse, and one that endeavours to reduce the negative effects of climate change through reducing the population exploition and unsustainable consumption.

  4. RJB says:

    This suggests AFA has an open mind about the existence of God – but is just looking for someone to blame (how 21st Century – the psych in me says start with your parents…) Enjoy yourselves anyway.

    • Davo says:

      Of course the AFA has an open mind about the existence of a god, however we accept that there is no credible scientific or factually reliable evidence for the existence of a god, gods or the supernatural. We do not believe in a god, therefore atheist.

      I would say I am myself gnostic atheist toward the concept of a judeo-christian god, and agnostic atheist to the wishy washy concept of some sort of deistic god.

      You do get what a joke is don’t you? It’s actually a play on the problem of evil, it’s quite the contrary to looking for someone to blame, or to look at issues as being some sort of ‘divine plan’.

  5. murad says:

    Hello
    To Mr David Nicholls . I am an atheist from Palestine and there is a lot like me, we treat here that we pariahs and there is no respect for our thinking
    We need to communicate with you to feel that we are not alone in this world to feel that there are people who support us in our views , our society is sick and bad
    We want you to show us the ways which make us free like you , and to say our ideas freely
    we hate Religions And especially Islam , Because islam kills who’s disagreed His instructions
    You are human and we also……..

    • Dear Murad Daryi,

      Thank you for your post. Atheists in Australia are concerned for people in other parts of the world who do not have freedom from religion. There is very little we can do about this more than unfortunate situation other than keep atheism in the public mind as much as is possible. Even in Australia that is not an easy task.

      Kindest regards,

      David

  6. lindA PEARSON says:

    Seeing these bus ads fills me with joy. It was what prompted me to join the Atheist society when they were displayed at the last convention. I hope these might inspire others as well. It gives me hope that the world is changing in some ways for the better.

  7. Bill says:

    your answer is not good – suffice to say ” just watch Austar/Foxtel

  8. The Real Carpenter says:

    I Work with a few believers in God and I find they have no respect for nature and the environment. The 2012 ‘Apocalypse’ Theory is more likely an awakening to the fact that there is no god and people must be responsible for their own actions.

  9. Christian Forever says:

    Atheism is probably the most deluded work of man. Woody Allen is a joke and the atheistic beliefs are crazy. Why believe in nothing?

    • The Real Carpenter says:

      Some poeple are secure enough in there lives and have a natural moral code, so they don’t need a make believe God to run there lives for them.

    • The Real Carpenter says:

      Believe in yourself Christian Forever & get on with life.
      In 100years time there will be droves of poeple worshiping Harry Potter because those books were also a good yarn. Dosen’t make them true.

    • Jimigrant says:

      Hi Christian Forever,
      I think that it’s just as possible to “believe in nothing”, as it is to “prove a negative”.
      I think, we just don’t believe in god. Simple as that.

    • Davo says:

      “atheistic beliefs are crazy”

      .. says the person that probably believes in talking snakes, donkey’s and bushes.

  10. Dale Steedman says:

    Theism is the most deluded work of man. Woody Allen tells jokes and theistic beliefs are crazy. That’s what we believe in. (plus, science, reason, logic, respect, inspiration, etc etc)

  11. maikel annaghlee says:

    Logically God cannot exist.
    Otherwise God is subject to all the laws of existence; otherwise there are no such laws.
    So by definition God is not.

    Conclusion: God cannot exist: atheism is logically God’s religion.
    If we could hear Jesus without the scriptural static, we’d discover his atheism and so celebrate Mind’s Reason rather than its brain-based division.

    • Damian says:

      If that’s logic, I think we’re all in “Wonderland”… “Atheism is logically God’s religion”??? – are you saying God doesn’t believe in God? You don’t believe that God exists, but you believe Jesus does? I’m just glad I’m crazy… (But then, I think there are few sane people on this earth.)

      • maikel annaghlee says:

        Hi Damian,
        What a wonderful reply!
        For Lewis Carroll is one of my favourite avatars.

        Firstly you write: “If that’s logic, I think we’re all in ‘Wonderland’… ”
        Naturally we are, if we are as illogical as to think that God is subject to the laws of existence and is so anthropomorphic as to have to ‘believe in ‘himself ‘.

        That’s why God is logically an atheist: he/she/it/they do/es not exist as we understand existence and its laws. Otherwise we do live in a fantasy world of ‘wonderland’ or ‘through the looking glass’

        As for Jesus, he doesn’t believe in the Hebrew God either. This is why he is The One to restore us to the Truth.

        This is what the Scriptures told him and I agree and so do Andy and Larry [neo Lana] Wachowski.

        Lewis Carroll’s world was not coded red or blue like the Matrix but the distortion of Reality was just as effective as is our anthropomorphic God.

        Secondly you write: : “I’m just glad I’m crazy… (But then, I think there are few sane people on this earth.)” Thank you for the admission and recognition as even a self-confessed “crazy” must logically define the opposite as sane! QED

  12. LYoung says:

    Just found an awesome quote:

    From my rotting body, flowers shall grow and I am in them and that is eternity.
    Edvard Munch

    I’m taking it to the grave!

  13. Peter Gee says:

    I know God exists and his love and grace over my life is real…How do I know?..because Im still ALIVE.

  14. Hugh Reid says:

    There is a distinction between the question of the existence of a Creator and the nature of said being. The religions claim to know all about the Creator; they call this God. This has influenced even Woody Allen. He assumes that if a Creator exists he/she/it should conform to human ideas of good behaviour.
    I prefer a scientific approach. Could the universe have created itself? What does science say? Well, the first and second laws of Thermodynamics say, actually, no. Can we trust these laws? Well, pretty much. Imagine holding a ball a metre above the ground and letting go. What is the probability it will fall upwards? That’s the same chance that the universe created itself, if you trust the science we have already discovered.
    This tells us nothing about the nature of a Creator, only that its existence is probably likely.

    • Davo says:

      prefer a scientific approach. Could the universe have created itself? What does science say? Well, the first and second laws of Thermodynamics say, actually, no.

      Not sure what you mean ‘created itself’ however you seem to miss the fact the law of thermodynamics apply to closed systems.

      So no, thermodynamics does not rule out such things as universes coming out of quantum foam, multiverse theory, or energy/force having always existed (the latter actually conforms to the first law, that energy cannot be created nor destroyed)

      So I am a little at loss as to how thermodynamics can be applied to the universe, the set of all things, when we only have experience of things within the set.

      This is called the fallacy of composition. This fallacy comes about when we assume that properties of the parts apply to the whole.

      Here is Bertrand Russels approach to the flawed argument from his debate with Copleston :

      “I should say that the universe is just there, and that’s all. . . . I can illustrate what seems to me your fallacy. Every man who exists has a mother, and it seems to me your argument is that therefore the human race must have a mother, but obviously the human race hasn’t a mother–that’s a different logical sphere.”

  15. Hugh Reid says:

    The laws of Thermodynamics were discovered by studying closed systems, but they apply to everything which we know of. Do you have an example of where the first law doesn’t apply?

    Quantum foam presupposes the existence of Quantum Mechanics. QM is a mathematical way of describing the behaviour of very small things, which already exist.

    • Davo says:

      The laws of Thermodynamics were discovered by studying closed systems, but they apply to everything which we know of.

      So does existence.

      Do you have an example of where the first law doesn’t apply?

      What part of the fallacy of composition don’t you understand?

      Quantum foam presupposes the existence of Quantum Mechanics. QM is a mathematical way of describing the behaviour of very small things, which already exist.

      Can you provide an example of nothing?

  16. Dr. F. Bunny says:

    Good to see the slogans are back on the buses. It should give the Colorado Coalition of Reason (http://www.cocore.org) cause for optimism concerning their Denver billboards which read, “God is an imaginary friend. Choose reality, it will be better for all of us.”

  17. Tim says:

    I’m all for what the bus ads are trying to do, but probably more inclined to support something without attacking something else.

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